I would like, in good faith, (and essentially as a hypothetical) to take Vic Hall at his word, and if he says he has had visitations of Christ, I’d like to believe him, with only a few caveats: was it really Christ or someone else? And does Vic tell us everything said during the visitation?
What I want to do is see if they are consistent with what Vic Hall preached and, what we are saying here about MCF (Melbourne Christian Fellowship)/BCF and what we know about Vic Hall’s calling and tendencies.
Here’s Vic’s twin visititions, supposedly, by Christ:
1975: He said, ‘I have this against you, that you have left your first love. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place – unless you repent.’ Rev 2:4-5.
2007: (The Lord) gave me the option to die. However, at the same time, He asked if I would continue to serve another generation. I took up the second direction because the unction of the Spirit was urging me this way. He said that He was displeased with how I had functioned among the presbytery. Under my oversight, men had crept in unawares and had devoured the resources that belonged to His little ones.
Firstly it should be said that Vic, in his testimony reported by Boundary Rider, reads a lot between the lines, for both visitations. That he allowed collegiality, multiple tiers of leadership and other minor problems in, for example. All side-stepping the real issues of wayward teachings and a lack of love.
And, secondly, and more importantly, nowhere does Vic apologize for the ‘devouring of the little ones’ that Christ supposedly accuses him of.
If this were all really true, Christ would have criticized his theology of guru headship. In the account, He does not appear to, unless he Lord’s threat of death was due to this wayward and self-serving teaching (he had pancreatic cancer at that point). Maybe all we are getting is Vic’s reading between the lines, and maybe – if it was true – Christ did criticize his guru headship stuff more directly than the comment about the ‘devouring of the little ones’?
But given the fruit of destruction by this move under Vic Hall, I simply can not accept that my God has chosen Vic Hall and THEN ALSO stood by him as late as 2007.
I can accept that, if this was Christ, it’s quite true – in our experience – that Vic & Jackson Snr and MCF/BCF ‘had lost their first love’.
But by 2007, the horrific guru headship practice was in full destructive force for at least 12 years.
However, the interesting point about letting men creep in who had devoured the resources of the little ones EXACTLY describes what happened to me.
There are two more ‘buts’:
- We know that Vic Hall and his BCF presbytery were horrifically harsh themselves. Not just ones that ‘crept in’. Look at what Vic himself did to a young leader in Malaysia, destroying his ministry and dividing his family.
- The implication that Vic Hall really is God’s chosen leader is hard to accept. Everything we’ve heard is of an egotistical, ambitious, cruel and love-less man with a strong religious spirit. And his actions and fruit support that.
So, although, there is a truth in the supposed words of Christ as to Vic’s failings, especially allowing ones to ‘take resources from the little ones’, this was all due to Vic’s careless, self-serving and non-Biblical teachings and so we can only assume that these visitations are: untrue, or not properly reported or from a demonic source.
A religious spirit explains absolutely everything. We all wanted to hear directly from Christ! We all wanted revelations! But in Vic Hall’s case, he craved them, he sought them and went on and bragged about them. And probably manufactured these teachings, possibly with demonic help.
The irony is that Vic gagged us ‘little ones’ for 25 years from having even the slightest input, let alone ‘revelations’ and ‘visitations’. This is a Satanic move of God now responsible for the waste of thousands pf people’s lives.
Vic, your own father was a messenger to you. He told you before he died that you were in heresy with your messenger nonsense. When you ignore messengers, of that sort, you will become deceived, even initiating the visitation of false messengers that you ‘want’ to hear from.
Vic, look at how each of your visitations puts YOU on a pedestal!
I suspect the visitations are demonic, and occurred because of Vic Hall’s egotistical and religious spirit.
I declare this myth, that Vic Hall had visitations of Christ, as least as described, and certainly the one in 2007: BUSTED.